Citizenship - Multiple Micronationality?

[Neike Taika-Tessaro]

Do we allow multiple micronationality? I'm seeing it a lot in other micronations - people are part of several micronations, really. I'm not sure I want to allow that - Dark Arcadia seems too restrictive in it's Citizen application (providing we keep it) as that something as liberal as this would be permitted.

But at the same time, other than the emotional argument, I can't find a reason against it. We have no military (unless we decide to get one in the other thread), so there would be no conflict à la "Which side does the Citizen fight for?", and that seems like the only problematic scenario. Perhaps we could require that the Citizen is solely in countries that do not tax, though, since they need to be allowed the freedom to use their money to support Dark Arcadia, should they wish to - and not have part of their earnings forcibly removed.

Hm. I'm torn between "letting the Dark Arcadian Citizen do what they want with their property" and the fact that the individual can never be seen as property (by constitution. At the moment) and should thus be thought of in different fashions.

[Whit Porter]

Do you think we will create a military?

[Neike Taika-Tessaro]

Honestly? Not really. Nations like Shireroth have a "military", but that's not real. I'd be open to something like Shireroth does it for fun and games, but I'm generally pacifistic... not to mention a wuss... so since we don't have a territory, I feel no need to defend anything of Dark Arcadia with physical force.

Heh.

[Whit Porter]

*smirks*

So should we not claim a territory? Be forceful or peaceful?

[Neike Taika-Tessaro]

Well, what use is territory, really, when it comes down to it? Minds are far more important. We can leave territory fighting up to the macronations, whilst we merrily use their land for Dark Arcadian purposes.

Not that I predict Dark Arcadia to have purposes that would be out of the ordinary and have to do with land. But, hey. It's the thought that counts!

[Whit Porter]

What if they don't like us using their land? Why not hold a military to serve as a defense against others? A point of purpose to lesser minds to defend the whole?

[Neike Taika-Tessaro]

[Whit Porter]

[BLusk]

Since you don't require the relinquishing of a person's macronationality upon granting of citizenship, I don't see how you can require the relinquishing of any other micronationalities. I'd also find it contrary to the base principles of the micronationality, especially the concept of letting people do what they will with their own "property" of themselves.

Brian

P.S. You can require it, I suppose, but it would go contrary to the stated principles as I've read them thus far.

[Neike Taika-Tessaro]

[BLusk]

Dread:

As long as you don't mind being totally inconsistent in your core principles, you can require it. Myself, that is contrary to my nature. But, I'm not going to need to live with it. Seriously, I'd recommend a rewrite of a few principles to clear it up, or just ditch the requirement.

You could require it for certain leadership positions, I suppose, without too much of a deal. A loyalty or perhaps a "no conflicting interests" clause for leadership. However, it would result in a ruling class and a lesser "free" class in your meritocracy.

Brian

P.S. I think what WOULD work within your principles is to require no conflicting or superceding limits on your ability to participate fully in the meritocracy. That, I think, would work well, if you include it as a core principle. Perhaps a "An individual cannot be a citizen until they can fully commit themselves to the principles of meritocracy and the ideals of Dark Arcadia without conflicts of interest. Therefore, citizens of other micronationalities must relinquish their claim on these citizenships in order to fully embrace the freedoms, principles and ideals of Dark Arcadia." Or something similar.

P.P.S. I still think that, rather than an established military, you should consider a volunteer citizen militia with a representative in government. I believe I called it an Archon of Military Affairs or somesuch, maybe Deputy Archon of Military Affairs. Such person would be responsible for organizing and "equipping" the militia when such is required, but would not be able to activate or call up the militia without express authorization of the High Archon leader. Alternatively, you could have a standing Police Force that doubles as your military contingent as needed.

[Neike Taika-Tessaro]

[Whit Porter]